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because even if we get something that avoids the fiscal cliff by some makeshift deal, it's not addressing the real problem, and the real problem is somehow we're going to come up with $1.2 trillion or more in revenue and significant spending cuts on all sides including military cuts and entitlement cuts so we can actually put our debt under control. until we do that, all we're doing is kicking the can down the road. now, is there a value to kicking the can down the road in avoiding the fiscal cliff? yes. but if they go over the cliff and then fix it in the next week with another stopgap, is there any real harm? who knows. if that make it is easier for republicans to vote for it, is it a disaster? probably not. but understand we had seven weeks in which we could have a done a big deal which would have gotten the debt under control, would have caused the economy to -- it would have been a catalyst to have this economy take off, and we blew it. we blew it. >> you know, governor dean, to that point here we are essentially looking over the abyss of the fiscal cliff, and i know you have said in
because even if we get something that avoids the fiscal cliff by some makeshift deal, it's not addressing the real problem, and the real problem is somehow we're going to come up with $1.2 trillion or more in revenue and significant spending cuts on all sides including military cuts and entitlement cuts so we can actually put our debt under control. until we do that, all we're doing is kicking the can down the road. now, is there a value to kicking the can down the road in avoiding the fiscal...
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cutting his vacation in hawaii sure to tackle the fiscal cliff. reports calling the possibility of a deal before the new year "virtually impossible." let's bring in former press secretary to al gore and we also have brad blakeman. they are both joining us from washington, d.c. "the house has already passed legislation to avoid the fiscal cliff, but senate democrats have not." what do you make of that feedback they are having what amounts to a staring contest right now. it is legislation that would keep tax cuts for those making under $250,000 a year. the house does not have any plans to come back before january 1. liz: the house does have a bill that would not hurt small businesses and the job creators in this country. for some reason they seem to be avoiding that very important issue for the u.s. economy. >> what i make of it is, it all goes back to the leadership of the president. the president created this crisis. remember, he was the one who had a bipartisan commission on the debt. they came back with their proposals. two years ago, the presid
cutting his vacation in hawaii sure to tackle the fiscal cliff. reports calling the possibility of a deal before the new year "virtually impossible." let's bring in former press secretary to al gore and we also have brad blakeman. they are both joining us from washington, d.c. "the house has already passed legislation to avoid the fiscal cliff, but senate democrats have not." what do you make of that feedback they are having what amounts to a staring contest right now. it is...
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what we're doing here, we are not going to offset the fiscal cliff, just doing the bush tax cuts. we'll only take away about 11%, 12% of total economic impact of the so-called fiscal cliff, all of the policies brought together because you'll be letting the payroll tax expire, the refundable tax cuts expire, and the sequester will be doing and we won't be doing much deficit reduction. we'll be increasing the deficit. it is just, i think, hard to step back and take in the totality of congressional failure around this issue. >> well, let's talk about what exactly is likely to happen or is the threat of what will happen. talk about the pentagon. talk about federal workers. talk about obviously the unemploy unemployed whose benefits are going away. >> absolutely. the biggest -- the most dangerous thing, the fiscal cliff is the unemployment insurance. if we go over for a month we can sort of trick everything else. we can -- the irs can do some tricks to make it so you don't feel tax increases quickly. we can do tricks to make it so we don't lay off people at pentagon, we can furlough th
what we're doing here, we are not going to offset the fiscal cliff, just doing the bush tax cuts. we'll only take away about 11%, 12% of total economic impact of the so-called fiscal cliff, all of the policies brought together because you'll be letting the payroll tax expire, the refundable tax cuts expire, and the sequester will be doing and we won't be doing much deficit reduction. we'll be increasing the deficit. it is just, i think, hard to step back and take in the totality of...
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cliff. >>> we still have plenty ahead. your weather, traffic and all your top stories. >> fox 5 morning news continues right now. ght now. >>> straight up 5:00 on this friday, december 28th. we are taking a live look at the jefferson memorial right now. things are much more calm out there. of course, it was pretty windy out there. we'll see what we've got in store for the weekend though. good morning. i'm sarah simmons. >> i'm wisdom martin. welcome to fox 5 morning news. we've got that big game this weekend. we want to know about the weather for that as well. >> it will be cold. sunday night, maybe 32 degrees at kickoff with a little bit of a breeze. >> oh, factor that in. people will be in parkas. >> no one will notice. >> you think? >> they'll be focused on the game. >> exactly. >> 37 at reagan national. 34 at dulles. decent looking friday. partial sunshine, high temperatures back in the low 40s, maybe 42 degrees for a daytime high and best part, a lot less windy than yesterday. we are lo
cliff. >>> we still have plenty ahead. your weather, traffic and all your top stories. >> fox 5 morning news continues right now. ght now. >>> straight up 5:00 on this friday, december 28th. we are taking a live look at the jefferson memorial right now. things are much more calm out there. of course, it was pretty windy out there. we'll see what we've got in store for the weekend though. good morning. i'm sarah simmons. >> i'm wisdom martin. welcome to fox 5...
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that's just one day before the fiscal cliff deadline when income tax cuts and payroll tax cuts are set to expire, $110 billion worth of spending cuts kick in, and two million jobless americans lose their unemployment benefits. for the first time, leader reid said today that it looks like the nation is going to go over the fiscal cliff, but that may just have been bluster, jeff, to try to put more pressure on republicans. >> glor: so, nancy, the house coming back on sunday. is that a good sign? >> reporter: well, it is in the sense that if the senate does manage to pass something, the house would be here to vote on it, as well. originally, speaker boehner had told his members that he would give them 48 hours' notice if they were needed back here at the capitol, but there was a recognition, i think, that it just looked bad for the house to be gone when we were so close to the fiscal cliff deadline. >> glor: nancy cordes, thank you. major garrett has been following developments at the white house. major, what is the president's next move? >> reporter: it is not a breakthrough but it is a
that's just one day before the fiscal cliff deadline when income tax cuts and payroll tax cuts are set to expire, $110 billion worth of spending cuts kick in, and two million jobless americans lose their unemployment benefits. for the first time, leader reid said today that it looks like the nation is going to go over the fiscal cliff, but that may just have been bluster, jeff, to try to put more pressure on republicans. >> glor: so, nancy, the house coming back on sunday. is that a good...
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at the 11th hour, just when people were starting to lose hope on the edge of the fiscal cliff the president met with leaders and said he was modestly optimistic about a deal on taxes. meeting this the red room, president obama held firm for tax cuts for families making up to $250,000 per year, and joining me on the north lawn of the white house is kristen welker. kristen, let's listen to what the president said about and up or down vote or what he expects from the senate. >> i had a good and constructive discussion here with the leadership about this tax hike on the middle-class. i am optimistic that we can reach an agreement that will be passed in both houses. if an agreement is not reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor and up or down vote for the floor, and i believe a p proposal could pass both houses with majorities as long as the leaders allow it to actually come to a vote. if members of the house or the senate want to vote no, they can. but we should let everybody vote. >> kristen, this up or down vote seems to
at the 11th hour, just when people were starting to lose hope on the edge of the fiscal cliff the president met with leaders and said he was modestly optimistic about a deal on taxes. meeting this the red room, president obama held firm for tax cuts for families making up to $250,000 per year, and joining me on the north lawn of the white house is kristen welker. kristen, let's listen to what the president said about and up or down vote or what he expects from the senate. >> i had a good...
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he will cut the hawaiian vacation short and come back to save us mere mortal from the fiscal cliff. winning the optics war and winning it big. juan, how did you get the ball back from the republicans? they had it. this was obama's economy, his face calf cliff. now boehner fails on the vote and next thing you know, the ball is in your court. >> juan: i think you are right. i think boehner at the moment looking weaker. he is out of this altogether at the moment. his troops abandoned him. he is okay keeping the speaker on january 3 when the republican caucus vote but you are hearing rumors about eric cantor who is next to him launching some kind of a coop at the moment. i don't know where it goes. but it seems that he is in a position where the republicans in the senate and the white house are really the ones who will negotiate the deal. you have ten or 19 in the senate. will he have a vote? >> eric: 32 bills passed out in the senate waiting for a vote. >> kimberly: this is ridiculous. imagine having the advantage. say you play basketball and five guys on your team and the other side h
he will cut the hawaiian vacation short and come back to save us mere mortal from the fiscal cliff. winning the optics war and winning it big. juan, how did you get the ball back from the republicans? they had it. this was obama's economy, his face calf cliff. now boehner fails on the vote and next thing you know, the ball is in your court. >> juan: i think you are right. i think boehner at the moment looking weaker. he is out of this altogether at the moment. his troops abandoned him. he...
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thank you. >> thank you. >>> are retail sales diving off the fiscal cliff? we'll talk about how the tax cut debate is impacting the recent christmas shopping economy. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is quite real though. this computer-animated coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or more on car insurance. someone get me a latte will ya, please? when you lost the thing you can't believe you lost.. when what you just bought, just broke. or when you have a little trouble a long way from home... as an american express cardmember you can expect some help. but what you might not expect, is you can get all this with a prepaid card. spends like cash. feels like membership. >>> senator mike crapo is apologizing for his drunk driving arrest. he said, quoetd, i'm deeply sorry for the actions that resulted in this circumstance. i made a mistake for which i apologi
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if no fiscal cliff deal is reached, most everyone's taxes will go up tuesday with deep spending cuts kicking in. earlier i spoke with a democratic and republican strategist. maria cardona and anna navarro. they seemed to echo the sentiment of the voters. >> this is like, when you at the beginning of the year and you're in school at the beginning of the year, you get assigned a big project and you leave it until the last night. when i used to do that, my parents used to punish me. if kids were behaving the way these congress people are, they would all be in time-out. if it was the private sector, they'd all be fired. there's absolutely no excuse. the only solution lies with us, the american people, and with us the voters demanding that they start working together and actually coming up with something. we cannot continue having these spectacles every few months. it's like making sausage. >> can we talk about the optics of this, maria? there are many saying this is a republican and democratic problem, we're here because republicans won't play ball. >> well, i mean, it's easy for me to s
if no fiscal cliff deal is reached, most everyone's taxes will go up tuesday with deep spending cuts kicking in. earlier i spoke with a democratic and republican strategist. maria cardona and anna navarro. they seemed to echo the sentiment of the voters. >> this is like, when you at the beginning of the year and you're in school at the beginning of the year, you get assigned a big project and you leave it until the last night. when i used to do that, my parents used to punish me. if kids...
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. >>> our other big story now is the fiscal cliff talks. later on today, president barack obama will sit down with top leaders from the house and senate at the white house. he is trying to find an agreement to avoid automatic spending cuts called for in the so-called sequester. and the bush tax cuts are also expiring. they have to agree on raising the debt ceiling as the government's borrowing limit will be reached next week. house speaker john boehner is calling the house into session sunday night. we are getting great comments this morning from you who have logged on it our facebook fan page. karl rose russell writes, if i don't do 199job, i would get fired. the same should be for them. thank you for sharing your sentiments on this. share your thoughts with us on facebook if you will. search for fox 5 morning news. no space between fox and the number 5. number 5. wisdom. >> that music takes me back to my childhood. it was that nfl films music. it was an era. i won't say which era. speaking of going back. we'll go back to turkey day. that
. >>> our other big story now is the fiscal cliff talks. later on today, president barack obama will sit down with top leaders from the house and senate at the white house. he is trying to find an agreement to avoid automatic spending cuts called for in the so-called sequester. and the bush tax cuts are also expiring. they have to agree on raising the debt ceiling as the government's borrowing limit will be reached next week. house speaker john boehner is calling the house into session...
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. >>> this is a crucial day in the effort to keep the country from going off the fiscal cliff. president obama meets with congressional leaders this afternoon. democrats and republicans both say a deal at this point would probably extend bush era tax cuts for most persons and raise taxes on the country's top earners. it could include an extension of long-term unemployment benefits, spending cuts would also be postponed. >>> house speaker john boehner will be at today's meeting. he says the house will convene for a rare sunday evening session. eric cantor says the house could be in session until january 2nd. that's the day before the new congress is sworn in. boehner, meanwhile, still maintains that it's up to the senate at this point to make the first move. >>> going over the fiscal cliff could have a huge impact on the local economy. thousands of people could lose their jobs, especially federal employees and government contractors. the defense industry could face billions of dollars in cuts. >> i represent the third largest number of federal employees and probably the largest
. >>> this is a crucial day in the effort to keep the country from going off the fiscal cliff. president obama meets with congressional leaders this afternoon. democrats and republicans both say a deal at this point would probably extend bush era tax cuts for most persons and raise taxes on the country's top earners. it could include an extension of long-term unemployment benefits, spending cuts would also be postponed. >>> house speaker john boehner will be at today's...
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he cut his hawaiian vacation short to get back to the white house for any possible last minute fiscal cliff meetings and it appears there will be one tomorrow. harris? >> well, what kind of response is the president getting from lawmakers at this point? >> well, senate republicans say they are willing to listen to any ideas the president has as to how to find a way forward. here is more. >> last night i told the president we would be happy to look at whatever he proposes. but the truth is we are coming up against a hard deadline here. and as i said, this is a conversation we should have is had months ago. and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> the senate is in session and this is the first time either the house or senate has been in session for legislative business between christmas and new year's since 1970. harris? >> harris: not to put too fine a point on, it i guess it is politics, i don't know. saw what looks like a bit of taunting teen the top senate democrat and th
he cut his hawaiian vacation short to get back to the white house for any possible last minute fiscal cliff meetings and it appears there will be one tomorrow. harris? >> well, what kind of response is the president getting from lawmakers at this point? >> well, senate republicans say they are willing to listen to any ideas the president has as to how to find a way forward. here is more. >> last night i told the president we would be happy to look at whatever he proposes. but...
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. >> reporter: the fiscal cliff would bring massive tax increases and deep spending cuts. the treasury department would have trouble paying its bills. many economists worry the financial woes would plunge the u.s. back into a recession. just one possible effect of the fiscal cliff. milk prices could spike $2 or $3 a gallon, because farm programs will expire at the end of the year. some are calling that dairy cliff. live in new york, wendy gillette. >> wendy gillette in new york. thank you. >>> the country has lost one of its great warriors. tributes are pouring in this morning for retired general norman schwarzkopf. the general died yesterday in tampa after a battle with pneumonia. schwarzkopf commanded "operation desert storm" that drove iraqi forces from kuwait. in retirement, he championed causes. norman schwarzkopf was 78. >>> now, to former president george h.w. bush's condition. his chief of staff says he will be in the hospital for a while. the 41st president is recovering from a terrible case of bronchitis with a series of complications. she says that mr. bush is g
. >> reporter: the fiscal cliff would bring massive tax increases and deep spending cuts. the treasury department would have trouble paying its bills. many economists worry the financial woes would plunge the u.s. back into a recession. just one possible effect of the fiscal cliff. milk prices could spike $2 or $3 a gallon, because farm programs will expire at the end of the year. some are calling that dairy cliff. live in new york, wendy gillette. >> wendy gillette in new york....
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in other words, we all tumble off the fiscal cliff together. for their annual football trip. that's double miles you can actually use. tragically, their buddy got sacked by blackouts. but it's our tradition! that's roughing the card holder. but with the capital one venture card you get double miles you can actually use. [ cheering ] any flight, anytime. the scoreboard doesn't lie. what's in your wallet? hut! i have me on my fantasy team. >>> while most of you were out welcoming in the new year, the senate was out working late and long after the champagne toast, they passed a deal on the fiscal cliff. now it's up to the house to pass it. the house gets back to work in about 30 minutes from now. house republicans are going to meet to decide what the next step is. vote, no e vote, change things? so while we have heard the reactions from some lawmakers on that senate deal, americans who are a bit groggy from last night, are waking up to the news and having weighing in. alison kosik has been out sampling some of that opinion. what are people saying? >> reporter: you know what's in
in other words, we all tumble off the fiscal cliff together. for their annual football trip. that's double miles you can actually use. tragically, their buddy got sacked by blackouts. but it's our tradition! that's roughing the card holder. but with the capital one venture card you get double miles you can actually use. [ cheering ] any flight, anytime. the scoreboard doesn't lie. what's in your wallet? hut! i have me on my fantasy team. >>> while most of you were out welcoming in the...
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. >>> they are trying to reach a last minute deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. they rejected house speaker john boehner's plan "b" and they say it will not be reached until they match spending cuts. they will raise taxes on the wealthiest americans. >> we will go over the cliff because it is what the president wants. >> we will present a tax hike on middle-class americans... >> without a deal spending cuts will take affect in the new year and economists warn it could lead to a recession and big jump in unemployment. >>> and before the end of the year, right now homeowners do not have to pay tax on a portion of the mortgage short sale or principal reduction, in authority sale, they could soon own income tax on part of what they had to pay. >>> officers are looking for and they say he killed his brother-in-law. he left in an orange truck and he is considered to be armed and dangerous. >>> they are banning together to find an answer to problems putting escalators out of service. there are many things that can put escalators out of service, dropped keys and change,
. >>> they are trying to reach a last minute deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. they rejected house speaker john boehner's plan "b" and they say it will not be reached until they match spending cuts. they will raise taxes on the wealthiest americans. >> we will go over the cliff because it is what the president wants. >> we will present a tax hike on middle-class americans... >> without a deal spending cuts will take affect in the new year and economists warn...
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five days until the fiscal cliff. hairy reid admitted a deal seems unlikely. >> i have to be honest. i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> reid called john boehner a dictateor and paintin painting -- pointing blame on him. >> we're here in washington working. wile members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching the kids play soccer and baseball. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership. >> the republican leader says the democrats have failed. the only reason democrats have been trying to deflect attention on to me and my colleagues over the past few weeks is that they zront a plan of their own. >> the president return forward a last minute push before leaving on vacation in hawaii. he had separate phone conversations but it isn't clear talks helped. >> hopefully there is time for an agreement of some kind. >> washington's failure threatens to undermine the fragile economic recovery. americans face big tax hikes on newer's day. and treasury department warns t
five days until the fiscal cliff. hairy reid admitted a deal seems unlikely. >> i have to be honest. i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> reid called john boehner a dictateor and paintin painting -- pointing blame on him. >> we're here in washington working. wile members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching the kids play soccer and baseball. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership. >> the republican leader...
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defense sector facing major cuts if we do go over the fiscal cliff. how that industry will be affected if we don't get a deal today, we'll talk about that after the break. stay with us. any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -- from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. try our easy-to-use scottrader streaming quotes. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. >>> they say the biggest priority is making sure we deal with the debt in a serious way. the way they're behaving is their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> there's no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. the sticking point appears to be a willingness and interest, or frankly, the courage to close the deal. >> the deadline to get a deal done, steadily getting closer and closer. the defense industry wi
defense sector facing major cuts if we do go over the fiscal cliff. how that industry will be affected if we don't get a deal today, we'll talk about that after the break. stay with us. any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -- from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. try our easy-to-use scottrader...
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washington as congress fails to act in time to avoid its fiscal cliff. haazig madyunlieberman: no deal is the worst deal >>> very dangerous place. haazig madyu brain, behind the t ear." >>> chief looks back at his over the "fiscal cliff". despite progress between cutting a deal to avoid a series of automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. will miss the midnight deadline lawmakers set for voting on an agreement. >>> kron-4's dan kerman is here to explain how we got to this point and who will suffer as a result. it was a battle and lack of that caused the republican led house of representatives tomorrow. that means we will go over the fiscal cliff at midnight tonight. something the president didn't when he met with reporters >> if this seems that this deadline is shortly in sight. >> reporter: the president indicated that congress was closing in on an increase in taxes for the middle-class. ford and com burgers over the amount of $450,000. for -- the amount of the and, revenue of $450,000 household incomes. >> if they think i'm going to finish with deficit r
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and they tried to explain that away and say this is the fiscal cliff. we have a fiscal grand canyon to deal with. and the president won round one and we'll sock it to him in round two, i don't know about that, two months, three months, we'll wait for round three and really get him. i mean, at one point this business of living to fight another day. you have to dig in your heels, by golly, this is important to the people of my country. >> that's not the most compromising view. but i appreciate your principles, sir. phil gingrey from the 11th in georgia. good to see you, happy new year. >> thank you so much. happy new year. >> he has not made up his mind yet. doesn't sound like a yes vote. >> based on data laid out there, doesn't sound like it. >> fairly safe to say. despite down to the wire fiscal cliff negotiations, somehow americans across the country managed to celebrate the arrival of the new year in spectacular style. the fiscal cliff not weighing them down at all. an estimated crowd of 1 million jammed into times square to watch the traditional ball
and they tried to explain that away and say this is the fiscal cliff. we have a fiscal grand canyon to deal with. and the president won round one and we'll sock it to him in round two, i don't know about that, two months, three months, we'll wait for round three and really get him. i mean, at one point this business of living to fight another day. you have to dig in your heels, by golly, this is important to the people of my country. >> that's not the most compromising view. but i...
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lawmakers are running out of time to avert the fiscal cliff. the latest on the 11th-hour scramble.
lawmakers are running out of time to avert the fiscal cliff. the latest on the 11th-hour scramble.
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to avoid the looming fiscal cliff. with five days until major spending cuts kick in and taxes go up on everybody, the white house says president obama made separate phone calls to the senate leaders, harry reid, and john boehner. that was last night before the president took air force one from hawaii to washington. molly is live for us at the white house. update us on the next move from the obama administration. >> despite the phone calls that the president made before he left hawaii, he spoke to top democrats and republicans and no negotiation meetings have been set. at least not formally or public limit there's nothing set yet between all the sides to discuss this. the president's back in washington after he cut short vacation to get back to the white house for possible last minute fiscal cliff talks leaving his wife and daughters in hawaii. the vice president is scheduled to be here today for meetings. don't forget the obama administration and congress have the debt ceiling hanging over them. the u.s. set to hit the
to avoid the looming fiscal cliff. with five days until major spending cuts kick in and taxes go up on everybody, the white house says president obama made separate phone calls to the senate leaders, harry reid, and john boehner. that was last night before the president took air force one from hawaii to washington. molly is live for us at the white house. update us on the next move from the obama administration. >> despite the phone calls that the president made before he left hawaii, he...
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to government spending. >> now, you mentioned two years ago shall the spending cuts, the fiscal cliff, it was designed to force washington to deal with the nation's long-term debt problem. and instead, here we are, a final hour, who knows what will happen next and i want to specifically ask you about the lack of progress on those structural issues like entitlement spending because even the plan c isn't touching that. so that means regardless of what happens before january 1st, investors will then be dealing with a certain degree of political risk long-term after the fiscal cliff deadline has passed. so, how will that affect the market on the economy in terms of spending cuts? >> well, my fear is that the compromise will be that we get the tax increases and they postpone the spending cuts and that's the ultimate objective. >> yes he. >> and you know, that is something that the economy will recover from and something will adjust to. remember, about half of the increased taxes on the average individual come from simply the roll off of that fica tax break we received the last two years, s
to government spending. >> now, you mentioned two years ago shall the spending cuts, the fiscal cliff, it was designed to force washington to deal with the nation's long-term debt problem. and instead, here we are, a final hour, who knows what will happen next and i want to specifically ask you about the lack of progress on those structural issues like entitlement spending because even the plan c isn't touching that. so that means regardless of what happens before january 1st, investors...
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a lot of people were concerned they wanted to go over the fiscal cliff. they wouldn't have to go for a tax increase. then however it becomes no longer extending the bush tax cuts, but the obama tax cuts. president obama is associated with cutting taxes. there is political liability for them as well. the reality is they have to get off of this no tax increase nonsense. i read in the "new york times" the other day, no republican member of congress voted for it since 1990. do you believe that? we had two or three wars since that time? a tragedy at 9/11 and we had hurricane sandy. we had hurricane katrina and despite all of these, they are unwilling to raise them to support and fund our government. what does it say about the dysfunctionality? >> we will have to leave it there. happy holidays to you. joining me now on the phone, congressman gregory meeks. congressman, i just saw you downstairs in the lobby about two or three hours ago and you were waiting on a phone call to determine when you might have to go back to d.c. to hammer out fiscal cliff matters. ha
a lot of people were concerned they wanted to go over the fiscal cliff. they wouldn't have to go for a tax increase. then however it becomes no longer extending the bush tax cuts, but the obama tax cuts. president obama is associated with cutting taxes. there is political liability for them as well. the reality is they have to get off of this no tax increase nonsense. i read in the "new york times" the other day, no republican member of congress voted for it since 1990. do you believe...
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summer with no revenue at all when we agreed to the debt ceiling deal that triggered this fiscal cliff fiasco. so we have put hundreds of billions, and we're willing to put more than a trillion in spending cuts. the republicans are still really leaving the middle class twisting in the wind, because they're unwilling to support, particularly the extremi tea partiers in the house republican congress increasing tax rates on the wealthier, people who make more than a million a year. it's unbelievable. >> debbie wasserman schultz, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >>> let's bring back ed as well as perry. let el me get your reaction. are write going over? will we get a deal after? >> if they keep talking like that, it looks increasingly likely that we will. a lot of it they probably want to american so that the final day of the year can go off without really know what will happen. >>> so the fact that he's now, you know, open to talking to the white house, going to attend this meeting and seem amenable to some kind of deal that could conceivably start this weekend, say debate start ton
summer with no revenue at all when we agreed to the debt ceiling deal that triggered this fiscal cliff fiasco. so we have put hundreds of billions, and we're willing to put more than a trillion in spending cuts. the republicans are still really leaving the middle class twisting in the wind, because they're unwilling to support, particularly the extremi tea partiers in the house republican congress increasing tax rates on the wealthier, people who make more than a million a year. it's...
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they knew the fiscal cliff was coming. 12 years' notice we had these bush tax cuts were going to expire. these kind of discussions require air they require time they require debate and we are now having them. when john thune says he hopes that senator reid brings a bill to the floor and it is open to discussion and amendment, not today. not today. it's too late for that. make a deal and stop markets from going over the edge, stop this economy from going over the edge. they will ruin a good economy, martin this is ridiculous, irresponsible, disgusting behavior. >> you don't want to hear this kind of detailed conversation going on now? >> no. no. >> you want to get a deal done? >> forget t no more details. no more details. you had 550 dies come one details. today is not the day. today's only job is to come up with a deal that ainvestigators going over the fiscal cliff and anything other than that is absolute irresponsibility you congressional malpractice. >> any deal? in other words, say some sort of temporary fix or have to be that long-term overhaul? >> i don't think -- at this point, b
they knew the fiscal cliff was coming. 12 years' notice we had these bush tax cuts were going to expire. these kind of discussions require air they require time they require debate and we are now having them. when john thune says he hopes that senator reid brings a bill to the floor and it is open to discussion and amendment, not today. not today. it's too late for that. make a deal and stop markets from going over the edge, stop this economy from going over the edge. they will ruin a good...
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that we don't want to inflict on you, but would have to by the design of the fiscal cliff, that oh, by the way, we created a year and a half ago. they actually couldn't get the social security cuts through this time. but republicans have promised and obama will probably be happy to go along with it that in the next few months they're going to you know, take another crack at "entitlement reform." but i think that whether or not this deal ends up being a good one for -- for democrats, depends on whether or not the president holds firm in the commitment he made. that he will refuse to negotiate on the debt ceiling. he is saying forget it. i'm not even going to talk about it. i don't care what you want to give me to raise the debt ceiling, i don't care what you want about the debt ceiling, i'm not going to touch the debt ceiling. now what does that mean? does that mean he is going to pay the debts even if the republicans don't raise the debt ceiling. we don't know, but he has insisted, both in private and with his staff in his public statements and in private with others that this is a
that we don't want to inflict on you, but would have to by the design of the fiscal cliff, that oh, by the way, we created a year and a half ago. they actually couldn't get the social security cuts through this time. but republicans have promised and obama will probably be happy to go along with it that in the next few months they're going to you know, take another crack at "entitlement reform." but i think that whether or not this deal ends up being a good one for -- for democrats,...
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. >>> the government from going over the flip, yet as the -- fiscal cliff, both republicans said they will not vote tonight. they will reconvene tomorrow morning. >> the vote on spending cuts and tax high school thaksd prevent the u.s. from going -- hike, from -- going over the fiscal cliff, still in the final hours. >> the house and senate convened for rare sunday sessions in hoping of bridging major impasses. >> conversations and discussions continue and we remain hopeful that'll get a breakthrough. >> we'll pass a minimalist bill so that we won't go over the cliff and then i think we have to go from there. >> on nbc's meet the press, president obama made a final pitch for his plan to preserve bush era tax cuts for welt healthy americans. >> a mijor sticking point continues to be -- major annual sticking point, the threshold has waiverd from $250,000 to as high as millionion dollar. the country doesn't have a tax revenue problem. t has a spending problem. john boehner issued a statement saying republicans have made every effort to make the balanced agreement that the president promi
. >>> the government from going over the flip, yet as the -- fiscal cliff, both republicans said they will not vote tonight. they will reconvene tomorrow morning. >> the vote on spending cuts and tax high school thaksd prevent the u.s. from going -- hike, from -- going over the fiscal cliff, still in the final hours. >> the house and senate convened for rare sunday sessions in hoping of bridging major impasses. >> conversations and discussions continue and we remain...
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>> increasingly, i think we will go over the so-called fiscal cliff. short-term will hurt the republicans, undeniably. long-term, it will hurt the democrats and president obama. dennis: i thought all along that the republicans would look horrible. now, i'm wondering if it is switching the other way. a family earning only $20,000 a year will see that their tax refund gets cut in half if we go off the cliff. >> i think you are right. especially since we have not had the follow-through, dennis. what is the reason for all of this? where are we heading? the president, nor the republicans have answered that question. dennis: thank you for being with us. dagen: chicago mayor is renewing a plan to privatize the cities i second biggest airport. jeff: this was the world's busiest airport from 1948 to 1961. now it is just three big airlines that call this home. southwest, frontier and delta. it is still a huge cash generator for the city. he famously had a deal to privatize the city's parking meters and the problem is, they took all the money they had and spent i
>> increasingly, i think we will go over the so-called fiscal cliff. short-term will hurt the republicans, undeniably. long-term, it will hurt the democrats and president obama. dennis: i thought all along that the republicans would look horrible. now, i'm wondering if it is switching the other way. a family earning only $20,000 a year will see that their tax refund gets cut in half if we go off the cliff. >> i think you are right. especially since we have not had the...
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he will cut the hawaiian vacation short and come back to save us mere mortal from the fiscal cliff. winning the optics war and winning it big. juan, how did you get the ball back from the republicans? they had it. this was obama's economy, his face calf cliff. now boehner fails on the vote and next thing you know, the ball is in your court. >> juan: i think you are right. i think boehner at the moment looking weaker. he is out of this altogether at the moment. his troops abandoned him. he is okay keeping the speaker on january 3 when the republican caucus vote but you are hearing rumors about eric cantor who is next to him launching some kind of a coop at the moment. i don't know where it goes. but it seems that he is in a position where the republicans in the senate and the white house are really the ones who will negotiate the deal. you have ten or 19 in the senate. will he have a vote? >> eric: 32 bills passed out in the senate waiting for a vote. >> kimberly: this is ridiculous. imagine having the advantage. say you play basketball and five guys on your team and the other side h
he will cut the hawaiian vacation short and come back to save us mere mortal from the fiscal cliff. winning the optics war and winning it big. juan, how did you get the ball back from the republicans? they had it. this was obama's economy, his face calf cliff. now boehner fails on the vote and next thing you know, the ball is in your court. >> juan: i think you are right. i think boehner at the moment looking weaker. he is out of this altogether at the moment. his troops abandoned him. he...
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at the bottom of the fiscal cliff are immediate and massive tax increases, deep and indiscriminate spending cuts, and a risk of another recession. if we come down on the final hours -- we have to bang choices -- to do nothing and cause an unbelievable amount of hardship for our fellow americans, or to do something to reduce the suffering inflicted on our citizens by an inflexible political system. mr. president, i choose to do something. today i am introducing the act -- the cliff alleviation at the last minute act. the act would do three important things. it will soften the financial blow the fiscal cliff, it will colmar financial markets, it gives us the certainty of a plan. it allows us, if we ever find the courage, to pursue the fiscal grand bargain that has eluded us so far. the financial markets are watching us and getting warmer -- nervous by the hour. we need to assure the market will of making good financial decisions. this bill is not something i'm excited about or proud to offer. this is not a great plan but merely a better plan been going over the cliff. it should never have com
at the bottom of the fiscal cliff are immediate and massive tax increases, deep and indiscriminate spending cuts, and a risk of another recession. if we come down on the final hours -- we have to bang choices -- to do nothing and cause an unbelievable amount of hardship for our fellow americans, or to do something to reduce the suffering inflicted on our citizens by an inflexible political system. mr. president, i choose to do something. today i am introducing the act -- the cliff alleviation...
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. >> the fiscal cliff will bring massive tax increases and deep spending cuts. the treasury department would have trouble paying its bills. many economists worry the financial woes will plunged the u.s. back into recession. one possible effect of the fiscal cliff, milk prices could buy $2 or $3 a gallon because farm programs expire at the end of the year. some are calling that dairy cliff. correct the fiscal cliff is not the only potential economic hazard on the horizon. thousands of workers at the port of baltimore and 14 of reports from boston to houston are threatened to go on strike this sunday. those ports move about 40% of the nation's container cargo traffic. the economic damage would reach well beyond the docks. >> from your mom-and-pop retailers to the farmers to the trucking companies will have to go pick up the containers at the ports. this will be felt not just at the ports locally, but nationwide everybody is on the ports to move their comrades. >> a major sticking point is the future royalties that the companies pay the longshoremen who moved the c
. >> the fiscal cliff will bring massive tax increases and deep spending cuts. the treasury department would have trouble paying its bills. many economists worry the financial woes will plunged the u.s. back into recession. one possible effect of the fiscal cliff, milk prices could buy $2 or $3 a gallon because farm programs expire at the end of the year. some are calling that dairy cliff. correct the fiscal cliff is not the only potential economic hazard on the horizon. thousands of...
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now, as far as that fiscal cliff, they can withhold the tax schedule changes. they're able like in defense, when you have a defense cut or a defense cut like that, it takes place over three to four years. it doesn't all happen this figs year. what we want is a bunny slope not a cliff so the damage is not great as long as we are able to take the short-term deal that david spoke about. what everyone is looking for, consumer and business investor is certainty. congress generates the political will with the president to address our problem. both in the grand scheme so we get $4 trillion in debt reduction over a year and second in the short term and don't have a gross domestic product grow at zee ro over the year. >> when you think about this entire issue, there is the gop caucus and the dysfunctionality that appear to be out there with plan "b." how does the speaker get this done and look like a winner if they come up with a compromise? >> well, i mean, part of what you need to remember is over 90% of the republican caucus was going with the speaker on this. again,
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lawmakers left for the holiday with the country on the edge of the fiscal cliff. danielle nottingham, cbs news washington. >> it was quite a year. we've going to -- we're going to have more reviews in the last hour. at 8:45 we will take a look at the international news stories of 2012. that is going to be on the cb channel 44, cable 12. >>> for the moment let's look ahead. mcathy labs expects hacking to mobile devices to expand. they might that stuff. the company is especially concerned about so-called ransom ware. it's a type of virus that locks up a phone or tablet and threatens to keep it that way until a ransom is paid. other concerns for mobile customers include trojan horse programs to buy apps without user permission and the hacking of digital wallets. a decline in attacks by hackers because their technical sophistication has grown. >> that's quite the target. >>> it's a murder that even a big city like new york everybody is in shock. >> the arrest of a man pushed to his death at a subway station. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, a man in front of a subway >>> a woman in new
lawmakers left for the holiday with the country on the edge of the fiscal cliff. danielle nottingham, cbs news washington. >> it was quite a year. we've going to -- we're going to have more reviews in the last hour. at 8:45 we will take a look at the international news stories of 2012. that is going to be on the cb channel 44, cable 12. >>> for the moment let's look ahead. mcathy labs expects hacking to mobile devices to expand. they might that stuff. the company is especially...
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the "fiscal cliff." president obama is supposed to meet with congressional leaders tomorrow. cbs reporter danielle nottingham is in washington and danielle, how's it looking? >> reporter: well, elizabeth, there was not a lot of optimism on capitol hill today. both senate leaders admitting that congress is facing a hard deadline while at the same time, blaming each other for not having a deal in place by now. president obama cut short his holiday vacation and returned to the white house to work on a deal to avoid the "fiscal cliff." before flying home from hawaii, the president called congressional leaders nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell and harry reid to reach agreements before tax hikes and spending cuts kick in january 1. >> we have been asking the president and the democrats to work with us on a bipartisan agreement for months. >> i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> reporter: the senate majority leader wants house republicans to return from their vacations to approve a democra
the "fiscal cliff." president obama is supposed to meet with congressional leaders tomorrow. cbs reporter danielle nottingham is in washington and danielle, how's it looking? >> reporter: well, elizabeth, there was not a lot of optimism on capitol hill today. both senate leaders admitting that congress is facing a hard deadline while at the same time, blaming each other for not having a deal in place by now. president obama cut short his holiday vacation and returned to the...
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when they say cut spending, mean it. >> mean it. >> efficient the fiscal cliff, it should be called the obama cliff and swan dive over it. good idea or bad idea? >> yeah. i think that would be part of accepting all the consequences and letting the chips fall where they need to fall. but i think what the house republicans need to do especially, knowing that they had whatever mandate they did have after the election, house to be the opposition party, to stand for core limited government principles and not sell us down the river. particularly all the small business operators and entrepreneurs trying']jñ to kep their head above water. >> thank you very much. have great weekend. >> you too. >>> we have senate minority leader mitch mcconnell existing the meeting now. we're going to keep our eye out and hopefully one of these guys comes to a camera. in the watch it. former president george bush bush remains in intensive care but good news regarding his condition. we'll have the latest from outside his houston hospital coming up next. share everything. share brotherly love. share one up's. mo
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. >> next, we will hear from members of congress about negotiations regarding the fiscal cliff today. harry reid followed by johnson -- john thune. >> thank you. i was gratified to hear the cuts are off the table. they should never have been on the table to begin with. there is still significant difference between the two sides. negotiations continue. we intend to continue negotiations. we will come in at 11:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. we will have further announcements. i hope so. >> next, talking about the fiscal cliff. john thune. >> thank you for the update. midafternoon today, senator john thune spoke with reporters on where things stand on the fiscal cliff. >> where do things stand as far as a republican deal? >> republicans advanced a proposal last night and you heard senator mcconnell talk about it on the floor. we're still waiting for a counteroffer. there was an indication we would receive the by 10:00 this morning, but discussions still continue. senator mcconnell and vice president joe biden are continuing to discuss this and we think there still could be a path forward. dem
. >> next, we will hear from members of congress about negotiations regarding the fiscal cliff today. harry reid followed by johnson -- john thune. >> thank you. i was gratified to hear the cuts are off the table. they should never have been on the table to begin with. there is still significant difference between the two sides. negotiations continue. we intend to continue negotiations. we will come in at 11:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. we will have further announcements. i hope so....
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cliff of tax hikes and spending cuts. the house planned to reconvene on sunday evening. a christmas season storm rolled through the northeast and new england, as the death toll climbed to 16. and lisa jackson announced she's stepping down as administrator of the environmental protection agency. and online, we've got a unique year-in-review of sorts. kwame holman has more. >> holman: science correspondent miles o'brien has had a most interesting 2012. he's crawled in sewage, cuddled with dolphins and played guinea pig to lots of experiments. watch some of the best outtakes of miles' science stories on the rundown. and we round up the most important lessons we've learned about helping kids stay in school from our series, american graduate. all that and more is on our web site newshour.pbs.org. margaret? >> warner: and that's the "newshour" for tonight. i'm margaret warner. >> brown: and i'm jeffrey brown. we'll see you online and again here tomorrow evening with mark shields and david brooks among others. thank you and good
cliff of tax hikes and spending cuts. the house planned to reconvene on sunday evening. a christmas season storm rolled through the northeast and new england, as the death toll climbed to 16. and lisa jackson announced she's stepping down as administrator of the environmental protection agency. and online, we've got a unique year-in-review of sorts. kwame holman has more. >> holman: science correspondent miles o'brien has had a most interesting 2012. he's crawled in sewage, cuddled with...
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they'll meet today at the white house to try and reach a deal on that so-called fiscal cliff. if that happens, it would trigger increases and massive spending cuts, likely sending the country back into recession. the president called the top four congressional leaders late last night. they'll meet at the white house this afternoon, trying to find a way to avoid that fiscal cliff. the house won't return to work until sunday evening and republican leaders say they could be in session until january 2nd, the day before the new congress is sworn in. democratic leaders say congress owes it to americans to be back at work, and republican leaders say it's senate leaders who have failed to act. both sides are blaming each other for pushing the nation to the brink. >> so-called senate bill that the majority leader is referring to passed with only democratic votes and despite his repeated calls for the house to pass it, he knows as well as i do that he himself is the reason it can't happen. >> we have four days to avert a crisis that could harm our fragile recovery, cost us another credi
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seems that if the president fiscal cliff, you guys pass a bill. he hasn't done in three years. they can pass in the senate give it to the president, then nobody's taxes are going to go up. prices averted then, they candlg spend time after the new year negotiating tax reform, ç spending and living within our means. why don't they just do that? >> well, they could. if they want to demonize the house. without doing anything, in the way of legislating. and sean, if you look back at ceiling bill back a year and a half ago had a super committee. you and i knew it wasn't going to work. one of our republican senators made up a pro pose yl to raise taxes and two senate democrats reported to have said wow. this is a break through. we can get a deal now. we'll be able to work this they go talk to president obama and hairy reid, come back to say, sorry we're not atloud work the deal. they didn't want to deal then. they don't want a deal now. it worked out well for them not to allow a deal last time. they blamed us last year. them and it worked and got go over the cliff? blame republicans.
seems that if the president fiscal cliff, you guys pass a bill. he hasn't done in three years. they can pass in the senate give it to the president, then nobody's taxes are going to go up. prices averted then, they candlg spend time after the new year negotiating tax reform, ç spending and living within our means. why don't they just do that? >> well, they could. if they want to demonize the house. without doing anything, in the way of legislating. and sean, if you look back at ceiling...
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cliff on overting tax hikes on middle income americas. they're still vague about delaying across-the-board spending cuts known as the sequester. stay with msnbc for more updates. now back to "hardball." >> let's dig into the turning points of general election. first up, the video that turned out to be the low point for the romney campaign. the candidates taped campaigns that half the americans are lazy. it's known as the 47% video. let's listen again. >> . >> never trust the caterers. anyway, republican national chairman committee man. i say that because i could not have been somebody who paid 1 $10,000 to go 234 there and then hurt the guy. >>> if u you're right about this election, it's the numbers. first of all, they occupy people. 1 pnt. all of the sudden, 1% became the thing to talk about. and then the 47% being anybody who's on any kind of government benefit program. whether it's disability or retirement or military or pension. everything was panted as bad. where did he get that number? >> well, look, you know, this election was all
cliff on overting tax hikes on middle income americas. they're still vague about delaying across-the-board spending cuts known as the sequester. stay with msnbc for more updates. now back to "hardball." >> let's dig into the turning points of general election. first up, the video that turned out to be the low point for the romney campaign. the candidates taped campaigns that half the americans are lazy. it's known as the 47% video. let's listen again. >> . >> never...
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. >> woodruff: this turned out to be a long day of waiting for final action on the "fiscal cliff" bill that cleared the senate early today. in the house, the measure ran into republican demands for more spending cuts, and its prospects for passage there dimmed. congress began the new year having missed its deadline to keep tax cuts from rising back to 1990's levels for most americans. and to prevent across-the-board spending cuts. instead, house republicans and democrats spent much of the day mulling a bill that cleared the senate shortly before 2:00 a.m. >> the yeah's are 89. the nays are 8. 60-vote threshold having been achieved the bill as amended is passed. >> woodruff: the senate bill makes permanent the bush era tax cuts for 99% of families, those with incomes under $450,000 a year. anything over that amount would be taxed at a rate of 39.6% up from the current 35. the agreement would raise the estate tax on large estates to 40%. but the payroll tax cut of the last two years would expire. the bill also extends unemployment benefits for a year and it stops a cut in medicare paymen
. >> woodruff: this turned out to be a long day of waiting for final action on the "fiscal cliff" bill that cleared the senate early today. in the house, the measure ran into republican demands for more spending cuts, and its prospects for passage there dimmed. congress began the new year having missed its deadline to keep tax cuts from rising back to 1990's levels for most americans. and to prevent across-the-board spending cuts. instead, house republicans and democrats spent...
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>> no vote tonight on the fiscal cliff. what are the chances of lawmakers cobbling a compromise tomorrow? would real pain start to hit everyone in the form of tax hikes and spending cuts? what other options do lawmakers have as a last resort. steven moore joins us from washington. steven is a senior economics writer with "the wall street journal." he writes op-eds. he's involved in the opinion pages. he's also a co-founder of the organization called club for growth, which has really been at the forefront of fighting tax increases across the board. so, you know, sometimes, steven, on tv we talk about grover norquist and a lot of people really don't like him. you think grover has the right idea. you have colleague es in the senate, in the house of representatives. we have talked about this endlessly for many months and we both sort of went into the last few days thinking they'll get a deal, they'll do it. it will increase some tacks on the rich and we'll figure out a number. i think both of us put forward it would be $500,000
>> no vote tonight on the fiscal cliff. what are the chances of lawmakers cobbling a compromise tomorrow? would real pain start to hit everyone in the form of tax hikes and spending cuts? what other options do lawmakers have as a last resort. steven moore joins us from washington. steven is a senior economics writer with "the wall street journal." he writes op-eds. he's involved in the opinion pages. he's also a co-founder of the organization called club for growth, which has...
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but avoiding the fiscal cliff is really not the goal here. cutting the deficit is. this is a case of gigantic political friendly fire in my view. we're targeting the wrong enemy. we should be targeting the deficit. >> i've read, dan, more carefully and it's extremely insightful. and one of the things that i take from you is that you're a markets guy who thinks about macro, and not just u.s. macro, but global macro. what i don't get about what you're saying now -- one thing i get very much about what you're saying now is a small deal doesn't solve anything except the immediate cliff problem and that's not the only problem we have. it's actually relatively minor, i agree with you. but if we engage in $500 billion fiscal contraction next year i think we're going to have a recession. as a guy who pays attention to macro, how does that help anybody? >> well, look, i actually -- one of the reasons i said, and it was a provocation of saying, the fiscal cliff, after the election, my view of where this was going was exactly where we are this morning. which is probably why yo
but avoiding the fiscal cliff is really not the goal here. cutting the deficit is. this is a case of gigantic political friendly fire in my view. we're targeting the wrong enemy. we should be targeting the deficit. >> i've read, dan, more carefully and it's extremely insightful. and one of the things that i take from you is that you're a markets guy who thinks about macro, and not just u.s. macro, but global macro. what i don't get about what you're saying now -- one thing i get very much...